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Second EV - smart Fortwo Electric Drive

Discussion in 'Ice Breakers' started by Mike Etchells, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Mike Etchells

    Mike Etchells Active Member

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    After me praising the benefits of EV's after 8 months in my Nissan Leaf my wife took the plunge. She has taken delivery of a 2014 smart ForTwo Electric Drive.
    We collected the car today from Birmingham and drove it the 55 miles to Shropshire. The car was charged to 100% when we started, and after 55 miles to home the gauge was showing 22% with 19 miles remaining. The outside temperature was 10 degrees C.
    In order to charge from the tethered (32A) Pod Point at home I purchased a 'Type 1 to Type 2 Converter' lead from EV Cables. This seems to be working fine.
    Unfortunately the smart doesn't have the (£1295!) optional 22Kw charger. However, it charges at 15amps, so a full charge should take around 4.5 hours. Based on charging at the Economy 7 'cheap rate' this should cost around £1. Not bad for around 60 miles range!
    It's early days yet; I'll post again when I get another chance to drive it!
     
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    Awesome! Daughter has been wanting one of these, her finances get in the way though:(

    Pics would be much admired!
     
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  4. Grumpy-b

    Grumpy-b Well-Known Member

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    I have a Converted Smart 451 and I just love it. Its not as quick as the genuine version but with the main battery pack under the floor/seats, they are like driving a go cart. All too easy to go too quick round corners. I was impressed by the Smart version when I took one out. Its well screwed together. In Canada where they have been sold for some time, a lot of users have had very serious power and range issues with the very severe cold weather, way down into -20c. But I dont think we will have such problems here.
    The use of the inner panel of the lower tailgate for cable storage is brilliant.
    The one anoying thing (I modified it on mine) is the internal rear view mirror. Im just uner 6ft and it blocks a lot of forward view and is not great behind. I found a post on a site showing how to simply shorten it. Ten minutes with a hacksaw and a self tapping screw and its about 35 to 40mm shorter, you cant see the join and it makes it much easier to see the road etc.
     
  5. Mike Etchells

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    Here are some pictures of my wife's smart ForTwo Electric Drive. smart_ED1.jpg smart_ED2.jpg smart_ED3.jpg
     
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    Hope you like it. I am a massive fan of the smart ed we had some from smart 3rd gen when they came out we used them as run abouts. Quick little things and lasted around Birmingham for ages. We have a 63 plate blue one in the showroom which I would love if it was only for the fact it has 2 seats! There is going to be a new ed for both models coming.
     
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    Just searched for a price. Nada. Are they too good to sell to the public? I love the idea of a 22kW built in charger, pricey I bet.
     
  8. richtrash

    richtrash The older I get the faster I was

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    I'm still thinking about converting my 450, I love the little car and it's so easy to maintain, just fitted a glass roof got panoramic visibility now :D
     
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    There's one on autotrader at £9,989 for a 63 plate.
     
  10. Grumpy-b

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    You have to do a conversion because you want to. Its not cheap to convert, especially if using new parts. So it makes little sense to convert a low value car in the first place, unless you love it and want to keep it. If you ever sold it you would not get your investment back and not everyone sees your passion for a car in the same way. I do keep a lot of new and used parts, including some ready made 451 gearbox to HPEVS ac series adaptor plates.
     
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    The one we have is £9000 ish I thin not sure if it has been put up yet. They are very rare I know of 3 in the localish area. They seem to sell quick and never really had any problems with them.
     
  12. Grumpy-b

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    Do be aware, they were/are sold both with and without battery packs, so a purchaser has to confirm that they also dont have a battery lease cost on top.
     
  13. SmartOJW96

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    I will be buying the new Smart Fortwo ED 2017 model, when it is released later in the year. I am currently trying to decide whether to lease or buy the battery packs myself. The car will be bought outright.
     
  14. AndyG

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    My opinion....

    Lease or buy is down to whether you are going to keep the car for any length of time.
    PCP and hand the car back then Lease is a good idea.
    Buy the car and Lease the battery means in the long run you could end up paying more money, but you have an insurance that is the battery goes wrong it will be replace. My probelm with that is the batteries are lasting far longer than the manufacturers could ever have dreamt and don't seem to be going wrong.
     
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    Thanks for replying. I will have saved enough to buy outright without need for financing. I think I might buy the battery, with the car. Then face any costs that come later.

    I plan to own the car for at least 5 years. Perhaps longer.
     
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    In 5 years time selling the car on will be far easier if you own the battery as well.
     
  17. Grumpy-b

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    If the cost of purchase is good then I would buy the pack. Hopefully it will come with a decent guarantee. Used car prices have been really badly hit by lease battery costs. And ability to sell the car when private purchased with leased battery has show to be an issue. No main dealer wants a used car over 3 years old in their forecourt, so these get shifted through the trade routes. Most dealers wont take the risk on having a car with battery lease sitting on the forecourt. Many battery leases continue even when not being used/ for sale.
    Enjoy the car, im sure it will be a great purchase.
     
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