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Should Carlos revive the i-MiEV?

Discussion in 'General Mitsubishi EV Discussion' started by richardglover, May 29, 2016.

  1. richardglover

    richardglover Leaf lover

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    At launch the Nissan Leaf was reassuringly expensive.
    On the other hand the Mitsubishi i-MiEV was stupidly expensive.
    The Leaf deserves to press on and become an iconic vehicle.
    But does the i-MiEV deserve a second chance?
     
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    It was hardly a great seller, even when Citroen reduced the price to £12k.

    It was fugly though. A small EV hatchback as good as the i-miev in less ugly guise would sell if price right. I think there's potential in an updated i-miev.
     
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    No - that will set back the image of EVs years.
     
  4. billysielu

    billysielu Vauxhall Astra

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    Nothing wrong with making a small car, just don't make it weird.
     
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    If it looked more like the new smart car then yes. If it looked more like the smart roadster... I'd buy one.
     
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    I bought mine over the Leaf because it looked like a real car and not a bit weird.

    Yes is the answer, but how about the enhanced range we heard so much about two or three years ago ?

    It is the most efficient electric car available, but with a larger battery, say 40 kWhs of new tech batteries and some kind of heat exchanger for the winter, who knows what real world range might be achieved, and a little more power, not a lot more, it would not be such a liability on the motorways.

    Oh and if Mitsubishi want another revenue stream, how about selling the car to home inverter system available in Japan so that the 40kWh battery can back up our home electrics.
     
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  7. MoonCat

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    Not a quick tickling of the i-miev, I meant a total new body shell in modern guise. The specs aren't actually that bad and would do for a small city car. Just update the body panels into a modern design similar to a Peugeot 106, Renault Twingo etc.

    It should be cheapish to do. Ford have been doing stuff like that for years. Brand new bodyshell on 10 year old running gear. An 80 mile city EV is absolutely fine. If they could improve on the battery cells, they might increase that without bumping costs up too much.

    It has potential as a cheap, small EV and thus not expensive.
     
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  8. Siraff

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    I think there's legs in this. I for one would certainly like a small city car size with around 80-100kw motor and at least 40kWh battery or a rex option. Not bothered about the spec - it can be as basic as it likes but power and range need to be realistic for people to want one.

    If it's a town car only it's a second car and that means it needs to be really cheap. It also means it needs less range and power - 60kw and 25-30kWh would be good.

    Any ev these days should be using a heat pump. There's really no reason not to.
     
  9. richardglover

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    As with other threads I start there various thoughts behind it.
    I test drove an ion and nearly purchased an i-miev but in both cases what I offered was short at the time (about a year ago). It is a neat little car and how else would you design a RWD small 5 door hatchback EV.
    With little effort and all three marques (Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi) behind it, a really sensible price and improved styling (strictly cosmetic) , it could go places.
    Forget the original price, I am thinking under £10k.
     
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    A electric C1, 106 or Aygo type vehicle?

    Dead basic spec, cheap reliable running gear (already exists) and a keen price. Job done.
     
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    Under £10k would be my thinking aswell. The original smart was a bit short on substance but the general idea of it was so right it sold well. For me the i-miev is just a stretched four seat version. It makes a lot of sense as a town car but the original price was just silly. It put it out of reach of a lot of people and put it against some very nice stuff at the time - even if you include running costs it was a rival on price for things that should have been three times the price.
    I also think there should be an ice version - bear with me here.
    If they launched the ev and ice at the same time, same price and same power it would be a straight up contest between people wanting range and people wanting smooth, quiet and response. I would say the ev would outsell the ice by a massive margin and it would send a very strong message to makers about which way they should be going.
     
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  12. richardglover

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    I like that, I like it a lot.
    Sort of town and country models.
     
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    There was an ICE version of the i-MiEV - not sure about the relative sales figures, only seen a couple in this country, but I think it was JDM only.
    The US version of the i-MiEV does look better, as they made it wider, so it looks a bit more 'normal'...
     
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    I have little to add to the debate, except perhaps a more drag efficient body would be nice, not that I don't find the quirky jelly bean shape has some merit.

    I have today done a 95.2 mile run (from fully charged to ---) so an enhanced battery, say 40kWh would make anywhere in the U.K. accessible, there are at the moment a few places that are not accessible even with the Ecotricity rapids.

    This is the second time since June 2013 that I have achieved 95+ miles on a single charge, I apologise to anyone that I inconvenienced in so doing.
     
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    Go on how slow? :cautious:
     
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    Mooncat how much does your leaf weigh.
     
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    In quiet country lanes about 25 mph but mostly at 30-45 mph, some in 50/60 mph areas, but everyone seemed pretty laid back today, I even overtook someone !
     
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    billysielu Vauxhall Astra

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    Great names. Bev = town. Ice = country. Rex = town+country. :)
     
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    How many Leaf owners constantly run four passengers.
     

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