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VW working on a new mass-market EV

Discussion in 'General VW EV Forum' started by Tim Ostler, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Tim Ostler

    Tim Ostler Well-Known Member

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    Its as valid as any discussion on the model 3, but i am highly dubious of the 48 Volt claim - it might work for Mild Hybrids but a full BEV I am struggling to see how that would work.
     
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    More vapourware to divert attention from their dieselgate hell hole. "First market market EV?"...ummm they're late to the party on that one, with nothing but empty words.
     
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    EVPotential Conflicted Ecoworrier/Petrolhead

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    Well to have sensible power levels for a medium size family car it will need around 100kW (and it makes maths easy).

    100,000 W / 48V = 2083 Amps. Hmmn. What AWG is that? A 1/2 inch steel bar?

    Me thinks there's some mix up of info on their future PHEV offerings which will run the core bits like a combined starter motor/generator/low speed propulsion, AC and heating from 48V and a BEV which will need 400V battery pack to get sensible motive power from.
     
  5. richardglover

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    I think what VW are looking for from us is name suggestions for their proposed new ev.
     
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    To motivate the retailers to be bothered to promote this car, it may be that VW have to engineer it to have some kind of retailer benefits hardwired into it. Or maybe they should just be given a particularly high mark-up...
     
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    Is their PR person a bit of a lush? Because they just seem to be spewing a series of random claims about EVs lately each one more incredible than the last with zero evidence of any of it existing.
     
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    I thought VW had a mass market ev already. Actually they have two and just can't be arsed to try and sell them. Surely they should concentrate on the e-Golf first before other dreams?
     
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    Well, they have a bit of experience of BEVs with the eGolf and eUp!, and a bit of lightwieghting with the XL1, perhaps they can combine the two in some sort of interesting and cheap way.
     
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    First, we are talking about two specific models. Second, what is so incredible about an eGolf with similar range to a Bolt or to the new Leaf? Or another model that will use the same platform as the Budd-E?
     
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    Lots of VW hate. Much as I want Tesla to succeed, it's not like we've seen anything but vapour regarding the model three yet either. Let's hope there's lots of exciting stuff going on all over the world which we will see and hear about properly when it's closer to launch. In the mean time, can't we just give them the benefit of the doubt? There are few companies with more incentive to come up with the breakthrough EV than VW after all.
     
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    EVPotential Conflicted Ecoworrier/Petrolhead

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    But the difference is Telsa are actually trying to sell EVs and have build a rapid charge network. I think VW need to take the same approach as BMW and create a new sub brand to sell the e-cars. The only comments I've ever seen regarding VW dealers and the electric cars is they are hard to get hold of for test drives, the dealers think you are mad for wanting one and such like.
     
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    Actually they only want to make you think that, so they can sell you a car instead that needs regular expensive servicing.
     
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    I am still waiting for the local dealer to ring me back, nearly 3 years...
     
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    VW could do it....if they're not bankrupted first.

    After a career in PR I'm inclined to believe that there's as much spinning going on as on one of their rolling roads at the emissions test centre.
     
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    More vapour-ware :rolleyes:

    Let's see just what the range is and what it costs when it launches. I bet it is nothing like what is proposed.
     
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    I bet you a pound that it is @Paul_Churchley. 300 mile range, 2019 launch (maybe 2020 by uk availability) and under £40k price point. Sound fair enough to you?
     
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    I'm sure it will be 311 miles of range. Just like my Leaf does 124 miles...
     
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